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____________________________________________________________________ [ 3:. - [ Interview with rfp ] [k-rad-bob] :. ] [k-rad-bob@b0g.org] :. ] ____________________________________________________________________ B0g: your webpage is located at http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp , what is the purpose of that site? Rfp: To provide something other than porn on the internet. Although I've been succumbing to doing that as well. B0g: you are regarded as one of the major influences (in my opinion anyway) in the whole hacking community, do you consider yourself as a hacker or merely a software enthusiast, and where do you draw the line? Rfp: I am a hacker in the traditional sense--I seek to learn how things work. I am not a computer criminal, and screw anyone who is determined to use other invented terms, such as 'cracker' and what not. They are computer criminals, people. Simple terminology, rather than trying to invent a cracker/jacker/whacker term. B0g: Were you ever a scriptkiddie? Have you ever defaced a site? Rfp: Have I ever ran scripts? Sure. But do I understand exactly what they do? Well, most the time. ;) Have I ever defaced a site? I don't find that productive in the least bit. B0g: Some rumors says you are/were one of the core members in HFG, is this just bull? Rfp: Wow, that's a new one on me. HFG? Nope, sorry. B0g: What do you personally think about scriptkiddies? Rfp: You know, you have to learn somewhere. But taking a script and Breaking into ### sites because you can only proves you to be a newbie that is acting out some childhood angst in a digitial realm. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. B0g: Is there such a thing as a legit hack? Rfp: Sure. Security assessments and penetration testing, otherwise known as contracted security evaluation. Why hack and go to jail, when you can hack and get paid for it? B0g: For the complete newbie, what is in your opinion the best way to get on the information highway? Rfp: Don't think that there is a shortcut. You have to wait in rushhour just like everyone else. Hit the books, start learning, and don't let your eagerness get ahead of you. B0g: What are your top 5 bookmarks? Rfp: Oooh, good one. On a daily basis, I visit ww.technotronic.com, www.securityfocus.com, packetstorm.securify.com, and archives.neohapsis.com. Plus I visit my site from time to time to see if it's been defaced. ;) B0g: Your site, while providing excellent security information, exploits, fixes and software, it doesnt offer much about RFP-the person, how would you best summon up yourself as a person? What are your best/worst qualities? Rfp: I'm just a puppy, trying to learn what I can, and contribute where I may to the community in general. I'm not to claim to know much of anything...just a few interesting tidbits here and there. I like to think I'm pretty easy going, and like to do all of this because it's "fun". B0g: Are you self-employed? Do you make a living out of doing security related work? If so, give us figures! H0h0! Rfp: Yes, I make a comfortable living doing security work for a company in Chicago. B0g: Do you see Microsofts Monopoly coming to an end? Rfp: If I could look into the future, I would rather look for lottery numbers than the final outcome of Microsoft. ;) B0g: As the saying goes; an OS is only as Secure as its Admin, in your opinion, what is the most secure OS? Rfp: People need to get over the religious bias and realize all OSes, and software in general, are tools. You use the right tool for the right job. That said, any OS can be made secure--just some take more work than others. If I had to pick, I would probably say most the BSD distros, and a few Linux distros, have their act together. But I don't see corporations running out to purchase BSDi licenses in bulk just yet... B0g: Do you see any big changes in the computer world in the near future? Rfp: We will get more dependant, stuff will get more complex, and more problems will arise. B0g: Will you ever write an humorous or technical article for b0g? Rfp: Sure! It's just a matter of finding the time... remember, I do all of this in my free time, and I like to, well, have a life as well. You know, life *away* from the computer. ;) B0g: Does creating public software that scans and searches for easily exploitable servers make you feel bad at all? Rfp: The software is a tool. Does holding a knife make you feel like a murderer? It depends on the use, not the tool itself. Evil is in the people, not the object. That said, no. :) B0g: Its no secret that the majority of the web defacements are done by scriptkiddies, shouldnt the creators of the tools that make these hacks possible feel at all responsible for theyre wrongdoings? How many hacks would you reckon has been accomplished after a successful scan with whisker? Rfp: Well, given that whisker only alerts of problems, and doesn't show you how to exploit them, I would say none. ;) In general, if people want to find the stuff, they will. As for whisker, hell, Packetstorm gets new CGI scanner submissions every week. There are others besides whisker. People need to differentiate their fear between the tools and the people that run the tools. B0g: Not only does rumors say you were in HFG, some also assume you were also involved with The United Loan Gunmen, have you ever been apart of any Online groups at all? Rfp: Well, myself and the rest of my litter were a part of the 'Puppies looking for Bitches' group, but we didn't do anything constructive. Mostly chased sticks, barked about this or that, etc. ;) B0g: What changes do you want to see happening within the online world? Rfp: People stop being naive to how things work, technically, politically, and sociologically speaking. B0g: Do you have any special projects for the future? Rfp: Whisker 2.0, along with some sister programs, are my focus. Plus an online project that ties whisker, nessus, and snort together. B0g: In your opinion, who controls the internet? Who should control it? How do you feel about the bills being set out by politicians who have minimal, if any technical insight at all? Rfp: Wow, tough question. Who controls it? The people who understand how it works. Who should? No one. Politicians? Plain and simple: there's money to be had, and freedom to be denied for the better good of someone, even if it's just themselves. B0g: Will you link to b0g.org on your page if we send you an upside-down button? Rfp: Considering it looks cool, absolutely. Sorry, no lame buttons. ;) B0g: your site http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp lets the viewer choose from 4 different layouts, in number three allure, who is that chick?!?! Rfp: I wish I knew. ]:) It's just a graphic from a porn site. In fact, I think it's from xp0's (www.antioffline.com) personal stash. I've had enough requests, where I think I will post the original sometime in the future. B0g: Is there anything you would like to say to the people who read this interview that we forgot to ask you about? Rfp: Fear potted meat food products. B0g: How do I hack unix? Rfp: Don't you know? Unix is the most secure OS on the planet. You can't hack it. Silly newbie. ;) B0g: Where can I get codez? Rfp: Trading for them at 2600 meetings. ;) B0g: ITS BEEN A PLEASURE -THANX VERY MUCH *** rfp has quit IRC (Ping timeout for RFP[AC80E72C.ipt.aol.com]) b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@! b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@! b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@! b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@! b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!b0g!#@!