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____________________________________________________________________ [ 3:. [ Rap vs the virusc0d3rz! ] [rapture] :. ] ____________________________________________________________________ This is about how a group of people (around 20) threatened to hack packet and kill me, why you may ask, well here's a look at the story someone dos'd www.virusexchange.org offline and then deleted all the files on their box, who was this.... everyone says me... yet they have no evidence. Here are some interviews regarding it. Evul (1 of the top guys in #virus) Email to my webhost who hosts my webpage (duh) The email: you are hosting a loser wanna-be hacker at http://rapture.warfactory.com who has been attacking our servers... His last attack took down a commercial network that was hosting http://www.virusexchange.org .. which the feds are monitoring anyway - and we have *every intention* of returning the favor to him. Thing is , his site is hosted here .. Do you guys REALLY wanna gettangled up in this ? I am the owner of one of these servers, and I *DO* have every intention of keeping this loser off the web - one way or another. I guarrantee that the law is going to be brought into this matter, also .. so you are warned about what comes with rapture. regards- John [aka Evul - MVT] Metaphase My reply ( I got the email from my webhost) Hi Ryan/Evul/ViRuShackErz/CoDeRz/WarKoDeRZ, What's this "our servers" thing you're talking about? The servers that are provided by BrustNET, that all resolve to one IP, or the individual pages of your "members"? In your statement "His last attack took down a commercial that was hosting http://www.virusexchange.org" ...have you ever thought of this before? Have you ever taken the time and read through the Internic/NSI acceptable user policy and the "rules"? .ORG IS NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION (notice the "non-profit) there. So, the only other possibility that you meant with "commercial network" would be burst.net, which would be impossible to take down, since it is backed by 4 MCI backbones and 2 Qwest pipes. By the way, does BurstNET know that you (or whoever) is hosting and distributing/encouraging illegal, and destructive software (virus software) on their network? And does BC Tel Advanced Communications know that you are hosting a gaming site off your ADSL? Speaking of the feds...you should know that I live in the United Kingdom, and therefore unless I committed a crime here, I'm not guilty of anything. Besides, where is your proof? How do you know that it was REALLY me? John 1/28/89 9:45 PM he attacked a network owned by a friend of mine today .. its a commercial network, being a high dollar business. Yeah, and I'm sure the president cancelled his trip to china to call for an emergency meeting at the white house with the nations top CEOs and the department of defense.... What's this big dollar business that I (supposedly) took down? Virusexchange.org wasn't a business, it was a site full of "virus coders" that have nothing else productive to do that make lame assembly programs that screw up the boot sector. Besides that, it looked more like a warez site, unprofessionally done and cheap looking. You should e- mail JP at Antionline and tell him your story...because, he'll be the only one that will take you serious. Have fun kids..keep on coding "coderz" IRC log of us talking Session Start: Mon Mar 06 18:05:48 2000 Session Ident: Evul (abuse@2Cust31.tnt1.bwi1.da.uu.net) [Evul] iz what you get for fucking with everyone else's sites [Evul] have a nice day [[rapture]] I like the threat part [Evul] you can take it that way .. [Evul] but hey [[rapture]] you know, between half the stuff actualy said to/about me, I could have charges pressed aginst half you guys [Evul] it really doesn't sound quite *exactly* like a threat, now does it / [Evul] =] [Evul] *yawn* [[rapture]] no but the packeting is [Evul] you and half the world [Evul] it wasn't me =] [Evul] heheh [[rapture]] I'm not getting anyone else involved in this anyhow, just letting you know that I am logging everything [[rapture]] oh, and some nice security on your site...hehehe [Evul] the feds are loggin that site, so have fun [Evul] =] [Evul] you;ve caused enuff trouble anyway,, you should just shut up and go away [[rapture]] h0h0h0h [[rapture]] and this is when its just me Session Close: Mon Mar 06 18:42:52 2000 Session Start: Mon Mar 06 19:02:06 2000 Session Ident: Evul (abuse@2Cust31.tnt1.bwi1.da.uu.net) [Evul] what ? [[rapture]] you have some [Evul] vx.org was on a business network, for one [Evul] and you cost shad good money [Evul] yes, burst knows exactly what I do [Evul] and they didn't host vx.org [[rapture]] how much and what business did I hurt? [Evul] shadseek owns a business [Evul] he was kind enough to run vx.org on it for us [Evul] and he doesn't have the multitude of bandwidth that burst does [Evul] I;ve seen your packets at fusion ... [[rapture]] stop talking out of your retarded ass, like that gay sitw was so ompirtant [[rapture]] stop making up so much shit [Evul] it wasn't to me... [[rapture]] why this "high dollar business" is hosted off a T1 [[rapture]] line [Evul] and I am not [Evul] its not a high-dollar business [[rapture]] .coderz.net is hosted off BurstNET [Evul] its enuff to put food on shad's table [Evul] and you comprimised that [Evul] THAT is the part that pissed me off .. [Evul] sites come and go [Evul] I've already moved coderz six times [Evul] that's nothign [Evul] its what your packeting did to shad [[rapture]] if its not a high dollor business [[rapture]] whats the fuzz about I took down a comercial network?] [Evul] *I* said "business network" [Evul] and that's what it is [[rapture]] what proof do you have it was me? [Evul] between me and you .. [Evul] I know it was you [Evul] I am not trying to take action, so I don't need to prove it [Evul] I am not trying to [Evul] but, that was one fucked up thing to do, man [[rapture]] the email said you were going to [Evul] I am not [[rapture]] infact it promised [[rapture]] id be ofline 1 way or another [Evul] do you wanna let thisd thing die, or is it going to continue ? [Evul] its up to you, man [[rapture]] why are you hosting a site with destructive software [Evul] look around [Evul] you are assuming there is [[rapture]] hahha, you promised the world id be dead or in jail !@!@ [[rapture]] now you want to drop it [[rapture]] I SMELL PH34R [Evul] I never said anything about dead [Evul] no you don't, you smell boredom [Evul] tis bullshit, and I have enuff of that in my real life [[rapture]] I just want you to answer my questions, first you [[rapture]] accuse me of packeting your 'high dollar business networks' [[rapture]] and now you're telling me to drop this [Evul] no [Evul] I am not telling you to [Evul] I would rather the whiole thing never happened [Evul] and yes, I will answer you [[rapture]] you seem like a depressed child, would you like me to be your friend? [[rapture]] why did the site get deleted, did someone hack it? [Evul] not really, and I am a manic-depressive, thank you, and not a child [Evul] dood [Evul] the site got taken down by shad [Evul] he cant have any of that bullshit interfering with his business [Evul] and that's exactly what it was .. bullshit [[rapture]] what happened to all the files that were there, they went their for like the last hour of it being up [Evul] I don't know [[rapture]] do you suffer under compulsive anorexia phobia or [[rapture]] canatonic schitzophrenia [Evul] I don't know how you are resolving IP's .. but I have several IP's on that server [Evul] nope [Evul] I just get good moods/bad moods [Evul] to the extreme [Evul] why ? [[rapture]] several IPs resolving to the SAME box [[rapture]] so this high business is actually 1 linux box [Evul] nope [Evul] you are getting virusexchange and coderz.net confused [Evul] they are unrelated, physically [[rapture]] does this mean mrsandman isnt going to come and beat me up now? [Evul] dood ,I have no clue what anyone plans to do, otehr than myself [[rapture]] coderz.net is hosted of BurstNET, and [[rapture]] virusexchange.org is GONE haha [Evul] do me a favor .. don't do that shit anymore [Evul] I am moving coderz onto a co-location box on a mere t3 [[rapture]] so, basicaly your saying, that you promised to take me ofline and legal action would be taken [[rapture]] and your doing none of this [Evul] honestly .. I thought you were going to attack my site, too [[rapture]] maybe all your fellow #virus d00ds log's and shit wernt such hard evidence, maybe you don't have a leg to stand on in a court of law [Evul] maybe, maybe not [Evul] maybe I don't fucking care? [[rapture]] you know your coderz.net in insecure right [Evul] ya .. it just got a new install of RH 6.1 and it needs some patches [[rapture]] what made you think codrz.net was going to get "packeted" ? [Evul] because when you said something like "sorry virus-dood, your sites are going down" [[rapture]] anyone with lame security deserves to be haxx'd [Evul] or a weak upstream ? [[rapture]] dpeends to wha end [[rapture]] there is a motive beind every crime [Evul] sure there is, no matter how solid, or lame [[rapture]] you don't seem as fagish as the rest of the virus d00ds [[rapture]] but your condcut with the bans and shit was just pure homosexuality [Evul] hmm [Evul] no ,.. you wether directly or indirectly caused the destruction of many people'ssites [[rapture]] so your not sure, are you? [Evul] I am just not getting into that argument with you [[rapture]] you have no idea who did any of it, do you [Evul] I sure do [[rapture]] ok, who ? [Evul] u did the packeting [[rapture]] based upon what evidence [Evul] like I said, I don't need evidence ... I am not trying to prove a fucking thing [[rapture]] what about [Evul] any of it [[rapture]] inocent until proven guilty [Evul] this isnt a court [[rapture]] or am I just making this all up [Evul] and I don't acre that much anyway [[rapture]] you threatened, sorry promised to take legal action [Evul] care, even [Evul] I just thought you should get a taste of people taking your shit down , too ... [[rapture]] the way I see it, the world is rid of a evil virus site, and the internet is better for it [Evul] I talked to him personally about a temporary thing [Evul] I knew it was coming back [Evul] and so did your host [[rapture]] he only did it because you threatened him [[rapture]] which was a truly gay thing to do [Evul] did he neglect to tell you what else I said ? [[rapture]] I have the icq log and the email [Evul] I said "I just wanted to see something done " [[rapture]] shall I quote ? [Evul] if you can quote, you are reading what I am talking about, and no, I don't need a quote [Evul] I have my logs, likewisw [[rapture]] John 1/28/89 9:48 PM I think you ahve more to worry about from [[rapture]] network attacks .. [[rapture]] Ryan 1/28/89 9:48 PM Did he rm -rf the server or what? [[rapture]] John 1/28/89 9:48 PM like steady SYN/UDP flooding and stuff [Evul] I was suggesting repocussions that were being discussed in general ,, not from myself [[rapture]] John 1/28/89 9:44 PM by our doing ,, and I am sure that there are [[rapture]] plenty of users he has destroyed sites of [[rapture]] today,, that are ready to attack in return [Evul] as you can clearly see from that discussion [[rapture]] he came to me, scared that you and friends would do to him what was done to you [[rapture]] yet, you have no clue who did it to you [Evul] and you wanna talk about gaynes ?? DOSing a site is pretty lame, too [Evul] and you knwo it [[rapture]] depends to what end's [[rapture]] in general dosing is lame [Evul] very [[rapture]] its a weak attempt at showing off [Evul] you think you are going to justify DOS by saying you removed a VX site ? * Evul shakes his head [[rapture]] who ever said I dos'd anything? [Evul] I could take that server coderz is on, and tear all kinda shit offline [Evul] but I don't [Evul] and from your email, you know I could [[rapture]] what speed connection is it on? [[rapture]] oh, you mean the network [Evul] I get a steady running speed of 155 mbps [Evul] will burst to OC-12 [Evul] 768 [Evul] I meant that box's line [Evul] its fucking hot [[rapture]] yeah, you could " tear all kinda shit offline" [[rapture]] however, if anyone haxx'd your server [[rapture]] which ANYONE could [Evul] but ,, see .. I don't, and I don't think its right for someone else to try and abuse access to such machines [[rapture]] they would have that pakcet power [[rapture]] if your box is insecure, its asking for trouble [Evul] true [[rapture]] you KNOW its insecure, yet you do nothing [[rapture]] are you unable to secure it? [Evul] ya ya ..,. its getting fixed [[rapture]] do you need some help? [Evul] its not here.. the techs are putting patches in it today and tomorrow [[rapture]] if someone hacked your box and packeted another netwokr ofline [Evul] there are several boxes that need patches [[rapture]] whos fault is it? [Evul] the ISP's [Evul] not mine [[rapture]] then your saying, the network that packeted xe.org ofline [[rapture]] are to blame [[rapture]] yet you blame me [Evul] actually, I would blame the intruder, and the ISP [[rapture]] what logic is that? [[rapture]] did you blame the network? [Evul] the ISP for negligence, [[rapture]] did you threaten them? [Evul] and the intruder for the attack [Evul] I don't know where you packeted from [Evul] Shad has those logs [Evul] but ya [Evul] I did last time [[rapture]] did you email their webmaster telling him to take down the pages because the fbi would be investiagting them [[rapture]] ? [[rapture]] [Evul] I don't know where you packeted from [Evul] I went stupid on the ISP that didn't secure their boxes when people were getting dos'd from a webserver some months ago [[rapture]] "YOU" [ you blame me yet again [Evul] "YOU" already admitted it to me [[rapture]] show me the log [Evul] but this discussion ends here, anyway [[rapture]] show me the evidence? [[rapture]] wait, you have none !@! [Evul] sur 8sigh8 [[rapture]] you forgot your shift key [Evul] if I wanted to prove anything I would save the logs [Evul] I don't [Evul] how many fucking times do I have to say that ] [[rapture]] I'm going to [[rapture]] because the world need to know [[rapture]] all logs threats emails and such [Evul] hmm ? [[rapture]] will all be archived [[rapture]] and setup online, for the world to see [[rapture]] because they DESERVE to know [Evul] very good, then *IF* and when someone does somethign it will be easier to figure out who it was [Evul] once again, I don't care [[rapture]] you best hope the hacker in question dosent see them, and take it the wrong way [Evul] =] [[rapture]] patch your box's, they need it [Evul] and I have said .. I already knwo this [[rapture]] else this hacker [[rapture]] may choose your network next? [Evul] care to share what you found ?] [[rapture]] and remove the #virus ban's on me please [Evul] I have the Net-admin on the line right now [[rapture]] if you want to know the insecurities, I can inform you, however not in this chat, as this log will be online [[rapture]] and I'm sure the world dosnet wish to know how to "haxx" you [Evul] send it over the submit form [Evul] on coderz .. or however you mailed me already [[rapture]] how about, unban me from virus and talk ther [[rapture]] e [Evul] I already did [Evul] its outta my hands now [Evul] the ban is higher than me [[rapture]] 500 ban? [Evul] I guess . I cant remove it [[rapture]] unban all the ban's set on me and il get into the chan [[rapture]] pass the word to virusbust maybe to unban ,e? [[rapture]] me? [Evul] he is same access as I [Evul] no he is lower than I [[rapture]] who owns the channel? Session Close: Mon Mar 06 19:47:34 2000 Next is Raid, not so popular as evul, however alot more of an "action" man Session Start: Mon Mar 06 19:49:13 2000 Session Ident: Raid- (n0ne@208.25.255.2) [Raid-] hello [[rapture]] hi raid [Raid-] so, when will you be home? [[rapture]] I'm home now [Raid-] I'm coming to the UK in a few weeks, and I think we should meet in person. [Raid-] You realize what's going to happen to you right? [[rapture]] whats going to happen to me? [Raid-] I'm going to drag you out of your house, and beat the livid shit out of you until I get bored. [Raid-] or until you die, whichever comes first. [[rapture]] because, a) there's no legal action being taken b) evul's getting me unbanned from the virus channel -] *evul* hello? [Raid-] Nah [Raid-] not evuls choice [[rapture]] so your going to beat me up? [Raid-] a) nothing legal, I'm coming on vacation and I'm going to pound the shit out of you. [Raid-] Yep, yep. [[rapture]] ok [[rapture]] when you come, were have to meet up [Raid-] Attacking a website was dumb. [[rapture]] you know its ilegal to threaten someone ::: Checking tables... [Raid-] You wanted to be respected, yet you fuck with one of our servers? ::: Raid- is () ::: IPs: [208.25.255.2] [Raid-] threaten no? No kid, Ask your friend ruzz, I am coming. [Raid-] and I am going to fuck your world up. [[rapture]] ok [[rapture]] mrsandman said he's comming as well [[rapture]] to beat me up [Raid-] yes, But I promise you, I am coming. [[rapture]] ok !@! [Raid-] and ruzz already told me where you live. [[rapture]] I look foward to meeting you [[rapture]] really? [Raid-] he was quiet copperative when he found out what you pulled. [[rapture]] well mr eleety [[rapture]] first he found it funny [Raid-] I would like to know one thing tho, Why did you fuck with one of our servers? [[rapture]] second he dosent know where I live [[rapture]] so god luck [Raid-] He knows you in real life. [Raid-] He's going to show you to me, or I'm going to fuck his face up too. [[rapture]] how many times has he seen me? [Raid-] No idea. [[rapture]] once [[rapture]] we met far from where I live [Raid-] I should kick his ass for bringing you here in the first place. But, you fucked with the server, not him. [Raid-] Why did you fuck with our shit? [[rapture]] keep threatening to beat me up [[rapture]] because this is all being loged [Raid-] threats? [Raid-] LOL! [Raid-] log this: [Raid-] I am coming to the UK withen a few weeks (soon as I get vacation officially) [Raid-] and I am going to find out exactly where you live, attend school and work (if you do). [[rapture]] school no [Raid-] and I am possibly going to just flat out fucking kill you. depends how much efforts required to find you. [[rapture]] are you going to bring an army of vx friends to beat me up? [Raid-] I hear your cops don't carry guns? [Raid-] No, just me and one glock pistol [[rapture]] nop they don't [Raid-] in america, we handle people differently then you. [Raid-] we execute the trash [[rapture]] are you going to shoot me? [Raid-] I'm considering it. [Raid-] I will be armed when we meet, regardless [[rapture]] I have 2 arms as well [[rapture]] and 2 legs [Raid-] YOu going to run? [Raid-] I've got no problem shooting you in the back [[rapture]] nop, il haxx you !:! [Raid-] You had no right whatsoever to attack shads server. [Raid-] yet you did, why did you do this? [[rapture]] wheres the proof? [Raid-] haxx me all you like son, I'm still coming to see you in person. [Raid-] and when we meet face to face, I probably am going to really really harm you. [[rapture]] probaly? [Raid-] and feeel free to turn me in for threatening you. [[rapture]] ok [Raid-] well, it depends on whos nearby... [Raid-] if your alone [Raid-] if its a well lit area or if its dark [Raid-] I've killed 2 other people in my lifetime. [Raid-] I had to serve 3 years for the 2nd fellow [Raid-] (I got caught, but they brought the charges down) [Raid-] I'm hoping that you'll be a freebie kill. [[rapture]] I PHEAR J00 YOU MAD GUNMAN VIRUS CODER!@!@!@!@! [Raid-] sigh [Raid-] You will always be lame. [[rapture]] ok action man [Raid-] Oh btw, [Raid-] I asked evul if he was going to let you back in: [[rapture]] yes commando joe? [Raid-] [Evul] did I say that ? [Raid-] [Evul] HELL NO! [[rapture]] ok [Raid-] Seems you don't lie worth a fuck either. [[rapture]] watch [Raid-] script kiddie [Raid-] you don't write your own apps [Raid-] you "hack" existing holes or improperly setup software [Raid-] and your not a script kiddie? [[rapture]] [[rapture]] how about, unban me from virus and talk ther [[rapture]] [[rapture]] e [[rapture]] [Evul] I already did [[rapture]] [Evul] its outta my hands now [[rapture]] [Evul] the ban is higher than me [[rapture]] [[rapture]] 500 ban? [[rapture]] [Evul] I guess . I cant remove it [Raid-] its a darkman level ban [Raid-] I can get it reversed [Raid-] if you can give me one good reason why I should? [[rapture]] just to show I didn't lie [[rapture]] raid, because I didn't haxx or packet anything [[rapture]] check the logs [[rapture]] they will clearly show it wasn't me [Raid-] then, why did you come online and admit to messing with virusexchange? [[rapture]] anyone could have used my name to say anything [[rapture]] I personaly find it funny as fuck [[rapture]] and now your going to shoot me [Raid-] you find it funny as fuck that a site which supports the underground was messed with? [[rapture]] no, that ive had multi death threats and legal actions threats [Raid-] I said I might shoot you. If you turn out being some 14 year old kid, of course I won't shoot you... [[rapture]] and like, none of it has happened [[rapture]] its all talk [[rapture]] I'm 18 [Raid-] You might not think it's all talk when one or more of the "vx" visit you. [Raid-] You should be more careful who's sites you play with. [Raid-] Some of those in this scene aren't just virus coders you know. [[rapture]] are they crazy raged commandos with machine guns and alot of spare time? [Raid-] PhreakX] HOE WILL EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE HOW TO DCC SEND A FUCKING LOG? [--- noted exception. [Raid-] commando? nah, I'm just an American. :) [[rapture]] well, raid I look foawrd to meeting you [[rapture]] maybe your be a nice guy, if you read the logs [Raid-] to be fair rap, [Raid-] I'll check the logs out. [Raid-] hell, you might actually be an honest fellow. [[rapture]] il tell you what they say already [Raid-] but, I doubt it. ;p [[rapture]] because when it was done, they showed the logs [[rapture]] in #virus [[rapture]] it showed packeting to be comming from .kr [[rapture]] and the deleting of files, I'm not sure [Raid-] hmmm [[rapture]] that's why theirs no legal action [[rapture]] else id be in jail by now [Raid-] you had nothing whatsoever to do with the server being messed with? [Raid-] jail for what? heh [Raid-] DOSing a site? [Raid-] neah [[rapture]] Raid, youve threatened to kill me several times and so have others...with no evidence [[rapture]] I find that funny as fuck [[rapture]] raid read this [[rapture]] The email: [[rapture]] you are hosting a loser wanna-be hacker at http://rapture.warfactory.com [[rapture]] who has been attacking our servers... His last attack took down a commercial [[rapture]] network that was hosting http://www.virusexchange.org .. which the feds are [[rapture]] monitoring anyway - and we have *every intention* of returning the favor to [[rapture]] him. Thing is , his site is hosted here .. Do you guys REALLY wanna get [[rapture]] tangled up in this ? [[rapture]] I am the owner of one of these servers, and I *DO* have every intention of [[rapture]] keeping this loser off the web - one way or another. I guarrantee that the [[rapture]] law is going to be brought into this matter, also .. so you are warned about [[rapture]] what comes with rapture. [[rapture]] regards- [[rapture]] John [aka Evul - MVT] [[rapture]] Metaphase [[rapture]] now, not only has no legal action been taken, none will be, and I'm online still arent I [Raid-] I've been online for years, even with the feds looking for me. [Raid-] that doesn't mean anything. [[rapture]] FBI = america [[rapture]] me = isnt [[rapture]] see [Raid-] I apologize for threatening you. [[rapture]] its all a bunch of shit [[rapture]] if you want to come and shoot me [[rapture]] your welcome to give it your best [[rapture]] motive: thinks he dosed a shite, but isnt shure [[rapture]] shite = site [Raid-] shrug [Raid-] your correct, that doesn't justify my actions towards you. [[rapture]] when you come to the uk, were meet up, and if you feel the need to beat me up your welcome to try [[rapture]] I could have gone insane and threatened back, however I don't loose my cool [Raid-] hehe [[rapture]] I'm always aware of what I'm saying, and I know the law [Raid-] I can't do that either man, Your just a kid. [Raid-] If I go beating up a teenager or shooting one, I'll look really bad. [[rapture]] I'm not going to report you, because I personaly don't want no troule [[rapture]] and I'm legaly an adult [Raid-] yes but your a teen [[rapture]] and? [Raid-] shrug [Raid-] I'm 3-4 years older then you [Raid-] to fight you or to go shooting at you wouldn't be good. [[rapture]] ok [Raid-] you should see the suckers on dalnet. [Raid-] they are taking irok v1.1 like candy [[rapture]] dalnet sucks [Raid-] hehehe [Raid-] it's useful for an itw virus. [[rapture]] oh, cool [[rapture]] anyhow, I'm going to make this all into a newsletter now [[rapture]] bye Session Close: Mon Mar 06 20:19:52 2000 MrSadman aka M- ( like evul a top guy in the virus world ) m-] hello [m-] what the hell happened to you, man???? [m-] I think we had already spoken about your behavior [m-] you seemed to be ok [Rapture] every vx'er on earth is after me [m-] and now look what you did [m-] what do you mean? [Rapture] ewell# [Rapture] when I poped on windows earilyer [Rapture] like 10 people added me to icq [Rapture] about that stuff [m-] jesus christ... where's the fun, or the challenge, on doing such a lame thing? I mean, where was your satisfaction? [Rapture] and I'm banned from everywhere [m-] what the hell did you expect???? [m-] that guy who's hosting virusexchange.org depends on his server for earning his bread every month [Rapture] due to legal reasons, no comment [m-] no comment? [m-] jesus christ, the less you should do is give an explanation [m-] I can't believe it [Rapture] if I saidanything [Rapture] your log it and give it to the virus kiddies [Rapture] and then I'm fucked [m-] I won't say anything, I don't like this kind of games [m-] I just care about what you and me had spoken [m-] I felt betrayed, you know? [m-] I made my bet for you and I even opped you when everyone was against you in the channel [m-] and now you've just proven I was wrong and everyone else was right [m-] and you had to do it just with the site in which I had my homepage!!! [m-] what the hell is going on? [Rapture] look [m-] are you schitzo or what? [Rapture] I'm not saying I did it [m-] I know you did it [Rapture] you know nothing.... [m-] i've read the logs in which you were "broadcasting" your "highlights" [m-] what else do I need? [Rapture] ok, paste them in here [Rapture] I'm not going to jail over this [m-] I don't have the logs here [Rapture] look [m-] but they were pasted in #virus [Rapture] I don't trust you enough to tlak to you about this [Rapture] my ebst friends have fucked me over [Rapture] ive known lea- for like 2 years [Rapture] and she fucked me over [Rapture] knowdeth for 5 years [Rapture] he fucked me over [m-] ok, and? what does shadseek (vx.org's webmaster) to do with this? and what about those who had our websites being hosted there? [Rapture] I'm not going to jai [Rapture] l [m-] why the fuck did you mix your personal affairs with us? [Rapture] so this convo is over [m-] I don't care about you going to jail or not [m-] fuck jail, i'm trying to speak with you [m-] and you keep all the time saying you won't go to jail [m-] ok, good [m-] I don't give a fuck about that [Rapture] I don't trust you enough [m-] you don't trust me enough for what? [Rapture] to talk to you [Rapture] since the logs will be sent to #virus [m-] we're talking now [m-] my conversations are private, I never paste anything into the channel [m-] and people know this [Rapture] I don't [m-] and moreover, I don't want you to make a "public confession" [m-] I want you to give me, mister sandman, an explanation [Rapture] sorry, I'm not intrested in jail [m-] again??? what the fuck does jail have to do in this? [m-] I just want you to explain me your reasons [Rapture] I don't trust you, your log and send to #virus [m-] there's already one guy pasting your stuff into #virus, you know? [m-] I don't have any interest on publishing your stuff [m-] I just want to know your reasons [m-] that's all [Rapture] sorry [m-] look, I had a concept about you [m-] we talked for some minutes and I changed it [Rapture] which was [m-] and after what happened with vx.org, I came back to my first concept [m-] and believe I would like to think again you're ok [m-] but you ain't giving me any reason [Rapture] dosent matter what you think anymore, we wont be seeing eachother ever again [m-] I don't think so *** Received a CTCP PING 951953708 from KamF00 [m-] after having seen your picture I don't think you're into sports like boxing, so I guess you can't understand why we, people who have/are boxed/boxing, for some reason believe the best way to fix things when people don't want to speak rationally is to have some physical contact [m-] I mean, i'm not an internet geek hiding behind his computer [Rapture] I was 12 in that pic [Rapture] I'm now 18 [m-] and believe I got enough info about you to trace your ass down [Rapture] alot has changed [m-] well, good that you're 18... I could be your father [Rapture] I knew I couldnt trust you [m-] your error was not to trust me [m-] since you don't wanna give any explanation to me, I guess you don't have it [m-] or I just assume that [Rapture] asume whatever you choose to [Rapture] trace whatever you like [Rapture] there is no evidence [m-] there's just one important evidence: I travel to the uk very often and I have enough ways to locate you [Rapture] so when you locate me then what? [m-] and dude... once this is done... [m-] a few people in #virus who know me could tell you about previous things I had to fix this way [Rapture] hahaahahhaha [Rapture] lisiten to yourself [Rapture] your going to come and beat me up? [m-] no, I won't travel specifically to do that [m-] but as soon as i'm back in the uk, you will have one more thing to worry about apart from jail [Rapture] ok il tell you what [Rapture] when you come to the UK [Rapture] ne abd you will meet up [Rapture] and you tell me to my face that your going to beat me up for this whole vx shit [Rapture] I thouight you were alright [m-] I won't tell you to your face, I will break it straight away [m-] I don't like to speak much [Rapture] I'm pissing myself with laughter here [m-] i'm not, but I do smile thinking how you will be pissing yourself (but not just with laughter) in the near future [Rapture] near future!@!@! [Rapture] eye best watch my back !@! [Rapture] anyhow [Rapture] its midnight and I have a job, so il see you later [m-] this childish stuff ain't up to me, so I will just say you goodbye Note : I have ICQ and IRC logs of other stuff related however nothing as funny as this. 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